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Morrus 07-02-2009 12:02 AM

Scared to send newsletter out!
 
I'm fairly concerned about actually sending out the newsletter. Just to clarify, the situation is as follows, correct?

* GAZ does not handle bounced emails
* Massive numbers of bounced emails can crash your server and/or get you blacklisted
* There are mods for that purpose on vbulletin.org, but they need to be modified to work with GAZ and the GAZ's author is unable/unwilling to handle this.

Does this not make GAZ unable to be used by anyone with a large forum who is not a proficient PHP coder?

Or am I worrying too much? If I send this newsletter, am I going to find myself in a world of hurt?

Ramses 07-02-2009 03:00 PM

You can try to send it once and after manually disable all bounced emailaccounts.
A lot of work I know but that's the way I did.
I don't think that you'll get blacklisted for the first newsletter.

Morrus 07-02-2009 03:56 PM

I have over 80,000 members. Manually doing it isn't a viable option for me.

Morgan 07-02-2009 05:13 PM

GAZ does not deal with bounced email, but if GAZ did deal with bounced email, the email would first have to bounce for GAZ to deal with it, i.e., the bounce has to first occur. GAZ isn't going to prevent bounced email. The complaint is that there isn't a nice way to unsubscribe a member from GAZ newsletters if his email bounces other than go to that member via the ACP and unsubscribe him after you receive the bounced email in your inbox. In order for GAZ to handle bounced email, it would need to become like an email program, reading your inbox emails to check for bounced email, but GAZ is a newsletter sender, not an alternative email program like Gmail or whatever you use. GAZ sends but does not receive. That said, there are add-ons on vBorg to deal with bounced email. Perhaps either this or this thread might help you incorporate an add-on from vBorg into GAZ by adding a header to the outgoing email so that, if it bounces back, you can use your email program to unsubscribe the member.

Morrus 07-03-2009 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramses (Post 29013)
I don't think that you'll get blacklisted for the first newsletter.

Well, it's a newsletter. It doesn't only go out once! That would rather defeat the point! :)

Morrus 07-03-2009 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan (Post 29020)
That said, there are add-ons on vBorg to deal with bounced email. Perhaps either this or this thread might help you incorporate an add-on from vBorg into GAZ by adding a header to the outgoing email so that, if it bounces back, you can use your email program to unsubscribe the member.

I can't really understand those threads. With all due respect, if I understood them, I probably wouldn't buy your product - I'd write my own! :)

Your market (meaning folks like me) is people who don't know PHP from a can of tuna. Thus we buy prewritten addons.

Why choose not to incorporate those addons into the base product? It would be a great value enhancement and from what you're saying, it wouldn't be difficult for someone like you who understands computery cody stuff, as opposed to your customers who know just about enough to click on the "pay now" link on the PayPal site. Seems like a no-brainer to me! Then again, I'm a marketing guy, not a coding guy. I can sell stuff, but I can't write it! :)

Morrus 07-03-2009 05:00 PM

In other news... I went ahead, crossed my fingers, and risked it...

I have now discovered that it takes about 18 hours to send out 80,000 emails! Just over 14,000 left to go.

Seems to work just fine. I made the mistake of including my personal email address in the "from" field, though, so all the bounced emails are arriving in my hotmail account. Must remember to change the "from" address!

henrikhansen 07-03-2009 05:36 PM

Hi Morrus. Can we see your site, eventually by PM?

Morrus 07-04-2009 01:55 PM

See my site? If you like. It's: www.enworld.org


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